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Cipher Jones Minmatar	Posted - 2011.09.05 15:57:00 - [1] Originally by: Zenith Intaki CCP employees aren't calling the shots anymore. Investors are and that's the reason why EVE turned into massive crap pile. Also, that little tiny guy with the vision of the best scifi experience should be fired. We already had that, in form of Rev II. Employees don't call shots. . Adapt and overcome or become a monkey on an evolution poster.
Cipher Jones Minmatar	Posted - 2011.09.05 16:35:00 - [2] Originally by: Tokyo Rose Also remember that the top ccp dogs are all very wealthy so even if all three projects go the way of the dodo then they are still all very wealthy. I imagine this has much to do with ccp's current direction. Why worry about taking risks with the company if there is no personal risk? The whole reason, the only reason, that people are mad at CCP is because they took a larger risk than continuing to develop EvE and EvE only. It is excellent to see that you paid money to complain about it, and even better that you used someone else's money (self admitted) to do so. Thank you for your contribution to this great game. . Adapt and overcome or become a monkey on an evolution poster.
Cipher Jones Minmatar	Posted - 2011.09.05 19:13:00 - [3] Originally by: Ghoest Originally by: Cipher Jones The whole reason, the only reason, that people are mad at CCP is because they took a larger risk than continuing to develop EvE and EvE only. No this is false people are "mad" due to 2 primary reasons. 1 No new "space ship" content has been added in almost 2 years and looks like none is on the way in the foreseeable future. 2 Some people resent various aspects of NEX. Many other companies continue to add popular content to their first game while developing a new game. CCP chose a different route and people are upset. All of which is a result of deciding to develop other games. . Adapt and overcome or become a monkey on an evolution poster.
Cipher Jones Minmatar	Posted - 2011.09.05 20:26:00 - [4] Originally by: Tokyo Rose Originally by: Ranger 1 Isn't it time you went back to not playing again. The person that bought the PLEX got what he wanted out of it when you purchased it with ISK. YOU are the one that burned up CCP's liability to provide game time when you purchased and used it. No moral high ground for you I'm afraid. What is this I don't even? Are you drinking and posting again? Plex are bought independently of someone paying rl money to keep a sub. Did the plex buyer get what he wanted? Of course. But it was a single transaction when normally there would be two transactions. Instead of paying rl money for a resub I paid fake money for a plex. CCP only got paid once instead of twice. Argue it as you will but I only expect another round of circular arguments. Yes, CCP only got paid once for one month of subscription time. You sure fooled them. . Adapt and overcome or become a monkey on an evolution poster.
Cipher Jones Minmatar	Posted - 2011.09.05 20:58:00 - [5] Just for clarification purposes, we are referring to one PLEX that was used to pay for Tokyo's subscription. We are not talking about sold but unused PLEX cards. I can't believe people genuinely don't comprehend that. . Adapt and overcome or become a monkey on an evolution poster.
Cipher Jones Minmatar	Posted - 2011.09.05 21:10:00 - [6] Originally by: AnzacPaul Originally by: Cipher Jones Just for clarification purposes, we are referring to one PLEX that was used to pay for Tokyo's subscription. We are not talking about sold but unused PLEX cards. I can't believe people genuinely don't comprehend that. So are we, that plex was already paid for. So long as there is more plex on the market than what is needed, CCP aren't making any money. People buy plex to sell for isk, people looking for game time via plex do not control this. There is no demand for plex atm. Get it yet? Tokyo's been trying to tell you for about 10 posts. You fail at economics in game and out. 1. I said I was glad somebody paid for Tokyo's sub; this is true. 2. As long as there is inflation (and there is) the same amount of past currency is worth more than the same amount currently. While you may be ****ed CCP re-invested their money, all of us are not. Bringing up that the PLEX was purchased with money when it was worth more only makes me happier. . Adapt and overcome or become a monkey on an evolution poster.
Cipher Jones Minmatar	Posted - 2011.09.05 21:19:00 - [7] Edited by: Cipher Jones on 05/09/2011 21:21:31 Edited by: Cipher Jones on 05/09/2011 21:21:08 Originally by: AnzacPaul Originally by: Cipher Jones troll, or stupid, can't work out which. Back under your bridge. When you can't use logic against it, its not trolling, bruh. Originally by: Tokyo Rose Originally by: Cipher Jones While you may be ***ed CCP re-invested their money, all of us are not. Which brings us right back to the only point that matters to any person who wants eve to be the best it can be. CCP are not using eve's income to improve eve. CCP is using eve's income to improve their bottom line at the explicit detriment of eve development. Why is this ok for anyone who wants eve to be the best it can be and finally have at least one(just one!!) new feature be developed to conclusion? Using your logic, college is a bad choice. You can either benefit directly by getting a minimum wage (or whatever your country has for *** jobs) now, or go to school and make more money later. . Adapt and overcome or become a monkey on an evolution poster.
Cipher Jones Minmatar	Posted - 2011.09.05 21:23:00 - [8] Originally by: Trolls Troll Originally by: Cipher Jones Known Monocotroll +1 for bad economics trolling Cipphy Thanks. I see your rebuttal lacks an actual rebuttal also. Thank you. . Adapt and overcome or become a monkey on an evolution poster.
Cipher Jones Minmatar	Posted - 2011.09.05 21:36:00 - [9] Originally by: AnzacPaul Originally by: Cipher Jones When you can't use logic against it Exactly, which is why I gave up with you. The money was paid and you failed to prove otherwise. Originally by: Tokyo Rose Originally by: Cipher Jones Using your logic, college is a bad choice. You can either benefit directly by getting a minimum wage (or whatever your country has for ** jobs) now, or go to school and make more money later. Wait what? You are comparing college to a game? College is your path to a better future. Profit whooring is ccp's path to a fatter wallet. How can this possibly be the same thing? When you re-invest money its not profit whoring. Ergo its not the same thing. Even you get to be right once in a while. Originally by:** Trolls Troll Originally by: Cipher Jones Originally by: Trolls Troll Originally by: Cipher Jones Known Monocotroll +1 for bad economics trolling Cipphy Thanks. I see your rebuttal lacks an actual rebuttal also. Thank you. don't be mad cause your maths ain't no good bro, plenty people can't do it. The use of a double negative indicates that "my maths are in fact good". Once again thank you for your support. . Adapt and overcome or become a monkey on an evolution poster.
Cipher Jones Minmatar	Posted - 2011.09.05 22:49:00 - [10] Originally by: Tokyo Rose Originally by: Cipher Jones When you re-invest money its not profit whoring. Ergo its not the same thing. Even you get to be right once in a while. When you reinvest money at the expense of your playerbase to make even more money at the expense of your playerbase its profit whooring. The only reason ccp is funding multiple projects is to increase its future bottom line and not because of some altruistic crap to eventually improve eve. CCP could improve eve right now by not investing in projects that have nothing to do with or that have limited impact on eve. You cannot possibly "make money" unless is it "at the expense of" another party. Re-invent your argument to compensate for that over-looked real world mechanic. CCP is a business. Its primary ethical responsibility is to make money for its shareholders. . Adapt and overcome or become a monkey on an evolution poster.

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